I think you've misunderstood my point. It isn't that they had to be good fighters, it's that the good fighters had to believe they would do a good job as Champion. Most of these people weren't going to screw up weapons safety and could run a tournament.
Good - 50 12-12-15 13-06-15 Thrasher
Acceptable - 49 12-06-09 12-12-15 Draeven
Acceptable - 48 11-12-17 12-06-09 Famous
Good - 47 11-06-25 11-12-17 Everlast Buttercup
Acceptable - 46 10-12-11 11-06-25 Connor Sleight
Bad - 45 10-06-26 10-12-11 Darkangel
Acceptable - 44 09-12-19 10-06-26 Skullband
Good - 43 09-06-20 09-12-19 Aidan
Good - 42 08-12-13 09-06-20 Everlast Buttercup
Good - 41 08-06-28 08-12-13 Aidan
Bad - 40 07-12-15 08-06-28 Vandred
Good - 39 07-06-30 07-12-15 Morgan Ironwolf
Good - 38 06-12-15 07-06-30 Blaise DeMorray
Good - 37 06-06-17 06-12-15 Everlast Buttercup
Acceptable - 36 05-12-17 06-06-17 Shef*
Good - 35 05-06-18 05-12-17 Nicodemus
Good - 34 04-12-18 05-06-18 Solace
Acceptable - 33 04-06-19 04-12-18 Kerb
Good - 32 03-12-20 04-06-19 Brennon Viridian
Good - 31 03-06-07 03-12-20 Everlast Buttercup
Good - 30 02-12-14 03-06-07 Rant
Good - 29 02-06-22 02-12-14 Ice of Redhawk
Good - 28 01-12-15 02-06-22 Tunear Sebeth
Good - 27 01-06-16 01-12-15 Brennon Viridian
Acceptable - 26 00-12-16 01-06-16 Kayrana Lissa
Good - 25 00-06-10 00-12-16 Talen
Bad - 24 99-12-11 00-06-10 Blank
Out of this list, each time you see a good fighter show up it is likely because they were knocking somebody else out. I did it once, Kerb did it once, Everlast did it twice, Aiden did it once, Solace did it once. Those are the ones I remember off the top of my head.
Essentially the champion position had a built-in veto previously. It got used judiciously, but it did get used. If you compare a list of other kingdom offices I suspect that there were fewer bad champions than bad monarchs, regents, or prime ministers.
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Are we seriously suppose to believe that The EH COK would consider somebody for a Sword Belt if they had 9 Orders of the Warrior and had served as Champion? I'm relatively confident that if such a person existed and they had fought into the position, that the answer would end up as "You've won 3 tournaments. Win one more." I say this regardless of if Champion is voted on or fought for, I believe that this particular argument only holds water if you actually think that there is a possibility of the EH COK giving a Sword Belt to somebody based on their term as Champion. Very few of the Champions since 2000 have become Sword Knights, and to the best of my knowledge all for their fighting skills not because they were a great Champion.
I'm not sure we're discussing the same thing with this point. I can say that many monarchs would consider a player for Warlord if they had three kingdom level tournament wins and a Defender. I can also say that I received a sword belt for Weaponmaster and Defender (I received a Warlord shortly thereafter). Frankly, I don't think I understand your last point as it doesn't seem to be responding to something I intended to say.