Register    Login    Forum    Search    Chat [0]    FAQ

Board index » Emerald Hills General Forums » General Amtgard




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 30 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next
Author Message
 Post Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 11:13 pm 
Offline

Joined: Thu Feb 16, 2006 11:19 am
Posts: 132
Looking over the contract for Tanglewood, and couldn't help but notice a few things.

First thing, the costs and fees. The posted contract entitles the landowner to 50% of the Kingdom gross, assuming we don't increase from the $15 we charge now.

Yeah, literally 50%!!!

Further, the deposits are really ambiguous. It mentions taking pictures as proof, but frankly that still leaves the Kingdom such with a pretty nasty deposit.

Everyone knows that I am not from the EH. I wasn't around for the bouncing around we suffered from Elowi. When Tanglewood first happened, it was OURS. A place for the Kingdom to call home.

Reading that contract, it's no longer ours. It is taking advantage of our nostalgia. That's bad business. And, I hope people think carefully when the Althing happens.

Sincerely,
Nettle


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 11:17 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Feb 01, 2006 6:35 pm
Posts: 1199
Just FYI. This was changed to a discussion item.

_________________
Brennon wrote:
The V8 mindset is not about "what is the minimum I can get away with doing" but rather "how can we all use these rules fairly so the game runs smoothly and we all have a good time."


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 1:21 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun Feb 26, 2006 10:10 am
Posts: 572
A very uninformed opinion Nettle But as always I will take it under consideration.

_________________
Arch-Duke
Arch-Count
Sir Falamar LaCrane


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 4:32 am 
Offline

Joined: Thu Feb 16, 2006 11:19 am
Posts: 132
Well, I'm only going off the information presented, what am I missing here?


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 5:10 am 
Offline

Joined: Sun Feb 05, 2006 5:35 pm
Posts: 639
I would like to see the same data fot Mexia and Atoka, for comparison.

_________________
"Passion overrules Reason" wizard's rule #3 of the Terry Goodkind series "Sword of truth"


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 10:10 am 
Offline

Joined: Thu Feb 02, 2006 6:38 pm
Posts: 504
One of the primary issues with Tanglewood is the unacceptable behavior of the owner.

The owners of Atoka and Mexia treat us like customers; the owners of Tanglewood insult our participants and drive off attendees.

Any new lease agreement that gets me back on the land will include a clause that has specific legal and financial repercussions for inappropriate behavior. The next time McFadden gets angry because we didn't knight his wife and locks the bathroom? That ought to cost him a couple of grand. He gets drunk and wanders around site yelling at people that he owns the land and can kick them off? He gets the cops called on him and gets escorted off-site like any other drunk retard.

So the cost is one thing, but it's not the big thing.


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 10:55 am 
Offline

Joined: Thu Feb 02, 2006 8:56 pm
Posts: 173
Location: Bright Forge
I'm unable to open the proposed contract. Could someone copy/paste the text into the forum?


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 11:29 am 
Offline

Joined: Thu Feb 02, 2006 10:56 pm
Posts: 1928
Atoka is $4 per person, per night. We also can rent the 2 pavilions. I am not certain, but I think they are $50 and $40 for the one near the road and then the one near the back of the camping area.

_________________
Forest Evergreen

Puppet Master of the EH

"Of course you are Forest. You're like the Mr. Burns of EH." - Finn

(insert titles and awards here)


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 12:02 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun Feb 26, 2006 10:10 am
Posts: 572
This is not a proposal to stop going anywhere else. This is the per event agreement. We can still use Atoka and Mexia aswell as TWF at the decision of the monarch. And as far as Bad attitude?? Plz this kingdom has many ppl known for bad attitude as in Brennon and myself as examples. And all of this has been discused with him and in the agreement he cannot kick anyone off with out legal recourse. He is now willing to do what it takes to get us back on the land.

_________________
Arch-Duke
Arch-Count
Sir Falamar LaCrane


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 12:14 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun Feb 26, 2006 10:10 am
Posts: 572
Plz remember, this IS what the Kingdom asked for. A per event agreement that does not perm tie all our events there. This is NOT an agreement to return to TWF but for us to use it when we wish with the items handled that the kingdom asked for

_________________
Arch-Duke
Arch-Count
Sir Falamar LaCrane


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 2:34 pm 
Offline

Joined: Thu Feb 02, 2006 10:56 pm
Posts: 1928
falamar wrote:
Plz remember, this IS what the Kingdom asked for.

Just to clarify, the Kingdom asked to rework the lease, and McFadden said he would rather to a per head fee than agree to a new lease.

As for what Brennon said, he has a point. Jack (at Boggy Depot) doesn't lock bathrooms, or threaten to remove land grants, if in game votes don't go his way. When the land owner uses his position as leverage to try to get his way in the game, we have a glaring conflict of interests.

I would like to see that resolved in writing before I would want to return to TWF.

_________________
Forest Evergreen

Puppet Master of the EH

"Of course you are Forest. You're like the Mr. Burns of EH." - Finn

(insert titles and awards here)


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 2:40 pm 
Offline

Joined: Thu Feb 16, 2006 11:19 am
Posts: 132
So, this is a per usage contract then? Not something added to the copora? That's a little easier to stomach. Still a financial ripoff, but that's up to whomever is in office. Thank you for the information, Falamar.

Nettle


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 2:41 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun Feb 26, 2006 10:10 am
Posts: 572
Forest... you are a friend... But BS! You have taken anything with McFadden or TWF as a personal afront since day one, you didnt like it in the beginning and you damn sure dont like it now, alot of people agree with me but prob wont say so, I take most things you say on this subject with a grain of salt.

_________________
Arch-Duke
Arch-Count
Sir Falamar LaCrane


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 2:45 pm 
Offline

Joined: Thu Feb 16, 2006 11:19 am
Posts: 132
Guys, it's a contract. If he wants paid, he can't have a drunken fit. It's that simple. The only whining that he can manage is the deposit. Besides, a smart and aware autocrat can prevent that from being absconded fairly easy.


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 2:51 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun Feb 26, 2006 10:10 am
Posts: 572
OK I need to get Sir Logan in on this. I just had someone read all this to me and a large portion has been left out speaking of these issues you are complaining about, And I didnt understand till now, I'm on it!

_________________
Arch-Duke
Arch-Count
Sir Falamar LaCrane


Top 
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
 
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 30 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next

Board index » Emerald Hills General Forums » General Amtgard


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 68 guests

 
 

 
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
cron