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Dailyn
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Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 10:42 pm |
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Joined: Sat Aug 28, 2010 6:24 pm Posts: 250
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Here are the results of the March 2013 Althing.
We had 247 members of the Emerald Hills eligible to vote. 103 people voted. IF I did the math correctly, this is 41% of our voting eligible population. (Elder and I have already established that math isn't my strong suit, so I might be wrong.)
Currently we have 15 parks plus those whose credits remain in EH-EH. I received votes from 11 of them.
In the matter of Item 1:
Change "earn a maximum of 1¼ credits" to "earn a maximum of 2 credits" Change "Those who attend Amtgard on both days will receive 1 (one) full credit for one day and ¼ (one-quarter) credit for the other day" to "Those who attend Amtgard on both days will receive 2 (two) full credits"
YES: 84 NO: 17 ABSTAIN: 2
In the matter of Item 2:
#2) Make Champion a voted on position. Page 7 strike #3 under Champion 3. “Winner of the Champions Tourney shall be Champion for the reign”
YES: 51 NO: 49 ABSTAIN: 3
In the matter of Item 3:
Make GMR an open voted on position. Page 8 strike #3 under guildmaster of reeves 3. “Only members of the Reeves guild may vote for or run for GMR”
YES: 53 NO: 48 ABSTAIN: 2
In the matter of Item 4:
(Opting not to post the entire entry due to it's really long)
YES: 78 NO: 20 ABSTAIN: 5
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Nevron
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Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 8:40 am |
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Joined: Fri Feb 03, 2006 6:47 pm Posts: 990
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It was written:"In the matter of Item 1:
Change "earn a maximum of 1¼ credits" to "earn a maximum of 2 credits" Change "Those who attend Amtgard on both days will receive 1 (one) full credit for one day and ¼ (one-quarter) credit for the other day" to "Those who attend Amtgard on both days will receive 2 (two) full credits"
YES: 84"
Your all worthless and weak. You have no idea what it took to earn a level in the early days of this game. I hope all 84 of you choke on your vote.
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falamar
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Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 9:02 am |
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Joined: Sun Feb 26, 2006 10:10 am Posts: 572
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So sayi the Dark Saint of the EH. You have all been cursed!
_________________ Arch-Duke Arch-Count Sir Falamar LaCrane
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Draeven
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Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 9:18 am |
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Joined: Fri Feb 03, 2006 12:14 pm Posts: 238
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Quote: #2) Make Champion a voted on position. Page 7 strike #3 under Champion 3. “Winner of the Champions Tourney shall be Champion for the reign”
YES: 51 NO: 49 ABSTAIN: 3
Topic for discussion. Since Chump is now elected instead of fought there will be some contention that it can still count towards a sword belt. I really saw 3 viable options (there could be more I missed I admit) should we a)no longer allow it to receive defender title. b)no longer count defender as kingdom tourney win, or c)make an equivilent title for chumps who win by election.
_________________ Draeven "If you don't think drugs have done good things for us, then take all of your records, tapes and CD's and burn them" - Bill Hicks
"Until we stop viewing making a knight into a non-knight a fate worse than death we'll never be able to clean up knighthood." - Glen
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Forest Evergreen
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Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 10:09 am |
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Joined: Thu Feb 02, 2006 10:56 pm Posts: 1928
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We can't change the defender title counting as a tournament win (but only 1 time) because that is in the rule book. I suggest that we no longer give out the title Defender to the elected position.
_________________ Forest Evergreen
Puppet Master of the EH
"Of course you are Forest. You're like the Mr. Burns of EH." - Finn
(insert titles and awards here)
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Nettle
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Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 10:41 am |
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Joined: Thu Feb 16, 2006 11:19 am Posts: 132
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When's the next althing?
That's gotta go. Not only are we giving away a qualification for knighthood by popularity, it's just plain nonsensical. It's obvious that I'm the minority vote, and I feel bit silly for doing it but:
Definition of CHAMPION 1 : warrior, fighter 2 : a militant advocate or defender <a champion of civil rights> 3 : one that does battle for another's rights or honor <God will raise me up a champion — Sir Walter Scott> 4 : a winner of first prize or first place in competition; also : one who shows marked superiority <a champion at selling> See champion defined for English-language learners » See champion defined for kids » Examples of CHAMPION
the heavyweight boxing champion of the world Our team will play the defending champions next week. the newly crowned national champions He was a champion for the working classes.
Origin of CHAMPION Middle English, from Anglo-French, from Medieval Latin campion-, campio, of West Germanic origin; akin to Old English cempa warrior
Anyone that hasn't gone, "tl,dr", we are Medieval group. How much farther are we going to step away from that? I'm as guilty as the next person for showing up in jeans, (generally because they're just cheaper and I lack sewing skills) it just seems that as time goes on, we're slowly but surely eradicating the things that made our game great.
Think of the concept of a champion, not Emmit Smith, Lancelot. El Cid. It's an ideal laden with prowess, creativity, and leadership. Tournaments were about winning the right to prove you possessed these things, not about public opinion.
*cough* How'd that soapbox get there? Oops.
Nettle
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Rook
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Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 1:04 pm |
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Joined: Tue Nov 08, 2011 8:13 pm Posts: 36
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I apologize for my tone. Nevron wrote: You have no idea what it took to earn a level in the early days of this game. Looks like it took 12 to 15 battlegames, from start to finish. And 2 years for "definite knighthood consideration."
_________________ Not Unless You Mean It
Antlers Rook Chancellor Herald, GM Healer, Razorhills GM Healer, Dreadmoor Nocte Vivat
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Brennon EH
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Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 2:37 pm |
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Joined: Thu Feb 02, 2006 6:38 pm Posts: 504
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As one of the few active Sword knights sitting on the circle, I will no longer be recognizing Defender from EH towards qualification for Sword.
Likewise, I will no longer consider the title of Warlord issued to a player using a Defender title as part of the qualifications to be valid.
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Draeven
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Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 3:51 pm |
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Joined: Fri Feb 03, 2006 12:14 pm Posts: 238
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Quote: Likewise, I will no longer consider the title of Warlord issued to a player using a Defender title as part of the qualifications to be valid. Now, here's my question regarding that. What are your thoughts on champions whom have received a defender but did not have a chump tourney as they ran uncontested?
_________________ Draeven "If you don't think drugs have done good things for us, then take all of your records, tapes and CD's and burn them" - Bill Hicks
"Until we stop viewing making a knight into a non-knight a fate worse than death we'll never be able to clean up knighthood." - Glen
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Brennon EH
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Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 8:46 pm |
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Joined: Thu Feb 02, 2006 6:38 pm Posts: 504
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I don't think that's an issue. The point of having it be a fought for position is that other fighters can choose to step up and stop a bad fighter from being champion.
We've removed that opportunity and as such we must decouple champion from the fighting awards.
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Nevron
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Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2013 12:23 am |
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Joined: Fri Feb 03, 2006 6:47 pm Posts: 990
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Rook wrote: "Looks like it took 12 to 15 battlegames, from start to finish. and then he added a bunch of other stuff." I really think you missed my point.
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Diestro
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Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2013 11:36 am |
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Joined: Sat Apr 22, 2006 9:55 pm Posts: 638
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Well, that's pretty weird.
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Nevron
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Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2013 4:25 pm |
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Joined: Fri Feb 03, 2006 6:47 pm Posts: 990
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It was voted: In the matter of Item 2: Make Champion a voted on position. Page 7 strike #3 under Champion 3. “Winner of the Champions Tourney shall be Champion for the reign” Stupid question of the day... So does the above mean that the future EH Champions just need to be voted in and not have to perform any sort of Quals entries like the PM does now?
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Elder Vermilion
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Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2013 7:31 pm |
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Joined: Wed Feb 01, 2006 6:35 pm Posts: 1199
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No, that is covered under a separate item on page 7: V.F.2. Must qualify at Crown Quals as per Monarch
_________________ Brennon wrote: The V8 mindset is not about "what is the minimum I can get away with doing" but rather "how can we all use these rules fairly so the game runs smoothly and we all have a good time."
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Nevron
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Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2013 9:16 pm |
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Joined: Fri Feb 03, 2006 6:47 pm Posts: 990
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Ok...Got a few more questions... If someone completes their task to qualifiy for our future champion, and if no one else qualified, do they still need to be voted in?. And... If 2 (or more) people do manage to qualify for champion and one of them is a warrior of worth, and by that I mean someone who can swing a stick well enough to not hit themselfs in the head, but the other person not only had a third person fight all their war events, but the person seeking the position of EH Champion doesn't even know which end of the sword is to be used to strike at someone. Much less what makes a weapon safe or unsafe. Will a vote still be required? And... What if Forest and I both run for Champion and we would rather fight it out to see who wins the position does this new rule keep us from doing it by tourney and forever restrict us to just letting the populace vote who they want as the reigns champion?
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